Sweden Passes New ‘FATHER’S RIGHTS’ Law . . . Men Can ‘OPT...

Sweden Passes New ‘FATHER’S RIGHTS’ Law . . . Men Can ‘OPT OUT’ Of Fatherhood . . . Until The 18th Week Of Pregnancy!!! 

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A new law in Sweden is stirring up all kinds of controversy. Some are calling it the new “male abortion” law, others are calling it a “father’s rights” law. Either way, it’s sure to have men across the globe talking.
Under the new law, which is awaiting official enactment, men are allowed – up to the 18th week of pregnancy – to opt out of all parental rights and financial obligations. The chairman of the youth wing of the Sweden Liberal party explained, “It’s not just up to women to decide whether to have a baby or not. Men should have an equal right to opt out of parenting and choose whether or not to become a parent.”
A number of women’s groups in Sweden are fighting to STOP THE LAW from going into effect.

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  • Greencat

    yes they should have a right. Women shouldn’t be the only one to have a right to chose.

  • Travis

    It would only be right. Men don’t get a say in whether or not a woman can have an abortion, nor do men get a say in child support. Women get unfair preferential treatment in this respect. So, a law like this is only fair.

  • John Davis

    Excellent law. Let’s hope that Sweden has the wisdom to make it real.

  • kelvin urena

    But what if she keeps it a secret?

  • Brother AbdulMajeed

    Anyone who believes that a woman should not be forced to become a parent against her wishes, but a man can if a woman wishes does NOT believe in equality.

  • CandidoCandide

    Let the twisting and bending by the rabid fembots begin!

  • phil

    Exactly, so it should be opt in not opt out.

  • gush

    A number of women’s groups fighting against it.
    Remember they have safe haven laws and abortion is legal up to the 23week.

  • The Spooky Ghost

    An important thing to keep in mind, is that this is in a country where abortions are highly accessible within 24 weeks (actually, comment below says 23… whatever, same dif).

    As such, if the father doesn’t want a child within 18 weeks, and the woman doesn’t want the child without a father, then it’s not really a problem.

    As a side note, this also disincentivizes certain devious behaviors. For example, everyone has probably heard at least one horror story about a woman lying about being on the pill, or taking a condom out of the trash, etc. These kinds of things no longer work if the man actually has legal rights.

  • The Spooky Ghost

    On the other hand, you’ve got to start somewhere.

    Rome wasn’t built in a day, as the saying goes.

  • menrppl2

    We would never force our daughters to be parents against there will, why would we even consider our sons less deserving.

    menrppl2

  • Andy C

    True .. but a first test case where a woman does and then takes him for child support will be hilarious if they rule as they should – her fault and gives him the choice there and then.

  • Andy C

    Because vagina.

  • Link_Xp4444

    We as a society are always told that men have absolutely no right whatsoever to tell a woman what to do with her body, and that because she has to go through the incredible pain of giving birth to the child, as well as carry the child to term – that is why she has more parental rights than the father.

    Well, you know what I say? Women have absolutely no right whatsoever to tell a man what to do with his wallet, and that because he has to go through the blood, sweat and tears (possibly doing really dangerous, or even fatal work for his paycheck), as well as having to work long hours and work the graveyard shift to start earning some real money – that is why he needs to have the right to decide what to do with his own money. Sorry everyone, but it’s really no secret that there are quite a few women out there who will take themselves off the pill or even poke holes in condoms so that they can have an accidental ‘oopsie’ and trap a man into financial slavery. Remember everyone: Consent to sex is *NOT* consent to parenthood. Believe it or not women have fought in court in the past to prove that consenting to sex doesn’t mean they are also consenting to being mothers (I will provide a citation once I find it by editing this post), and the exact same idea should also apply to men.

    Here’s an example for everyone: Let’s say a young man about the age of, oh… 25 has a mother who is about 50, while his father is no longer around due to a workplace-related fatality. So, the now-single 50-year-old mother finds out she has cancer. So, the son decides to put his entire life on hold so he can emotionally and financially care for his mother, since she cared for him when he was too young to care for himself. He’s a kind, compassionate guy right? Indeed! So anyway, things go alright for about a year, but his mother is still battling cancer. The son is honestly feeling physically and emotionally exhausted, and is suffering quite a bit when it comes to social aspects. What the poor guy would really like is a kind, gentle and loving life-partner of the female variety that he could maybe lean on just a little bit from time to time to help him out with the loneliness in his life. He feels like if he had somebody understanding in his life it would be a lot easier for him to take care of his mother. I know we as a society see all the things that men build and all the scientific discoveries and leaps in technology made possible by men and start to assume that men are either gods or superhuman, but at the end of the day men are only human just like women – they get tired and break-down from time to time. So, the kind and compassionate son in this story looks for a girlfriend who can emotionally support him during this stressful time in his life, whom he will then support in return once things in his life have calmed down. Maybe he meets a girl jogging in the park, or sparks up a conversation with a young lady in an internet cafe. Anyway, after quite a few weeks of flirting and inexpensive kind gestures (remember most of his money goes to his poor mother who has cancer) the relationship with his now-girlfriend starts to get physically intimate. Things are going great for him, and this woman is really helping him out with his physical and mental exhaustion – however while he does like her a lot he needs to make sure she’s on birth control since he obviously cannot support a child with his mother in the condition she’s in. So, when he asks her if she’s on birth control before they get physically intimate he decides to explain his situation to her so she understands why he can’t have any children at this time. So, she says she understands – but now she knows he has money. So, one thing leads to another and now she’s pregnant with his child. She intentionally decided to take herself off birth control as well as told the guy that her skin was allergic to all sorts of different kinds of condoms – and he believed her without thinking to look into that claim, since she had never lied to him before. So, now he has to both financially and physically provide for his new offspring, even though he clearly told her he couldn’t have any children at this time – as you can imagine his mother who still has cancer gets left out in the cold thanks to this new development.

    Situations like that, as well as the fact that some men just don’t want to have children are perfects reasons why this idea of legal abortion should be passed into law. Again, if consent to sex is not consent to parenthood for women, then the same should apply to men.

  • John Smith

    Well CONGRATULATIONS men of Sweden! Your government is the first to stand up for father’s rights! Women have had the final,and only, say when it comes to parenthood. Why does she get the final say? The man’s life will also be affected! Then there are times when a man uses a condom only to have an evil black widow try to sabotage the condom with the direct intention of getting pregnant.Why? Child support.This new law FINALLY gives men equal say regarding his own future. BRAVO!!!! Let’s hope the U.S. adopts a law like this. It will have to wait until Donald Trump is President.

  • menrppl2

    her body her choice for the pregnancy. then there is adoption…it becomes her life her choice…..and to hell with his life, men don’t matter.

    its 2016

  • But why would feminist groups have a problem with equality? They DO want equality, right?

  • Let us hope their male lawmakers do not squirm for lack of female admiration once the hate-men feminist harpies try to convince them that letting men have rights too is misogyny. If men will stop undermining their own sex, equality might just be around the corner.

  • Feminism has always been bigoted, hate-men, supremacy for women. It is manifesting as we speak.

  • True equality makes them squirm!

  • Greggore

    I wonder how many men might be alive today if this law was enacted 40 years ago.

    This law needs to spread! imagine now no human can be trapped or forced into parenthood against their will!

  • Anita Bonita

    Oh thank God. In America it’s common for poor women to lie about being on birth control in order to blackmail wealthy men with alimony.

    “Pay me a large amount now and I won’t make you pay for this child for 18 years!” – what guy hasn’t heard that before??

    We need to follow suit. A man has no say on the rights of a child.

  • Anita Bonita

    Good point!

  • Anita Bonita

    I agree. If it was about “equality” then women would’ve fought for the right to be drafted and die in war when they received the right to vote. Feminism has always been about empowering women. They only want equality when it comes to the good things.

  • It is a gross exageration to say that the law is being passed. Liberalerna is a minor party – they are actually dangerously close to the 4% required to keep their seats in parliament. LUF (Liberalerna Ungdomsförbundet) – the youth organization affiliated with that party – has suggested such a law; but it is very unlikely to be endorsed by the party, and it wouldn’t have a prayer in parliament.

  • politicalcynic

    Swedish feminist groups will fight this law…because it has the potential to place men on an EQUAL footing with women on this issue.

    The concept here is simple:

    Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood: Equality
    Consent to sex is consent to parenthood-but only for men: Feminism

    The mere fact that feminists are opposing this law proves that they do NOT support equality.

  • Is it right to force someone to be a parent?

    Of course not that applies to both men and women

  • CandidoCandide

    Of course they do… at least at words.

  • Stu

    Don’t get excited. This law has been suggested by a minor, minor party……with the slimmest hold on the bear minority of seats in parliament. It has absolutely no chance of becoming law. Sweden is a country of feminazis and super manginas. It could not have got the way it is any other way. And believe me, our countries will be as bad…..and far, far worse then Sweden in the years to come. I know that, for a fact, because I see no sign yet of anywhere near enough opposition to feminists to stop them enacting yet more anti male legislation. And as long as they can…….they will.

    It gets this way, because the only man’s rights most men care about…..is their own. And they happily parrot and echo whatever man hating rubbish feminism serves up in order to be liked by women…….right up until they themselves are victims of the misandry they have supported. The fact is that most men deserve everything the feminists have in stall for them……not for the bullshit reasons that feminists say……but because they themselves…..don’t give a fuck…until their nuts are the ones in the vice.

  • Bora Bosna

    Expect workarounds, like courts protecting the woman’s “privacy” to hide that she is pregnant until 18th week, denying the man’s request for DNA testing etc. Don’t believe for a second this is gonna go down easily.

  • Bora Bosna

    “why would we even consider our sons less deserving.”
    Because they hate men. Simple.

  • Bora Bosna

    Not ruining a man’s life by forcing him into fatherhood is barely “valuing men’s lives”… It’s simply “hating them ever so slightly less”.

  • crydiego

    Finally, a step toward equality and feminists fighting it all the way.
    The big one is still ahead though, -a mans right to be a father and part of their children’s lives!

  • skillet

    Equal rights ! I would prefer to see no abortion.

  • Taylor Kuykendall

    Feminist who loves this idea here.

  • Tim Patten

    Finally EQUALITY in birthing rights.

  • Paul Adams

    The male is rarely a parent in the situation of the woman choosing. He becomes a wallet/slave.

  • KnxGuy MGY

    Lol feminists are fighting against it…

    What a fucking shocker… Not

  • paavo

    Women can still lie about being pregnant up until the the 19th week if they want to trap a man. Many women do this. So while this law definitely has good intentions and pisses off feminist groups, it will only curb the honest women of doing it. The ones, who were less likely to do it in the worst place. Still it is a commendable step forward for equality.

  • Janet Wilkinson

    You better get cracking with writing to your local feminist hive… I mean “group” and telling them that you support the move then. Because I am sure they are busy getting posters and protests organised and are preparing to lobby everyone involved to try and stop this from happening.

  • Juan David Mejia

    … i don’t trust you.

  • While I like this in general, I can see this leading to women simply waiting until Week 19 to tell the male — if they’re able to.

  • Wade Jordan

    Feminists only want equality when it is convenient.

  • Taylor Kuykendall

    I’m a total stranger, why would you? I’m not saying this to get your validation, I’m saying it so men won’t have their lives ruined with children they don’t want.

  • Alex Aricci

    From a purely pragmatic standpoint, if you don’t want to raise a kid you’re not going to be good for that kid anyway.

  • Andrej Rodionov

    what a surprise. something good came out of “liberal” cesspool

  • Sn0man79

    Holy crap that’s awesome!

  • Ben

    Incredible! Finally if a women has the right to not be a mother, to abort or give up for adoption, then a man deserves equal right to rescind his paternity if he does not want to be a father. A country is actually close to granting such an equal right and of all countries it is Sweden, truly amazing.

  • Jeffrey Quave

    i love when the shoe is on the other foot

  • GeneTheDog

    This is fantastic news but I am concerned about the details. Is the mother compelled to tell him? Couldn’t she just not tell him? What if it was a one-nighter and she can’t find him in the 18 weeks? Does he get an extension? At any rate, this is a great start!

  • Deadly Raver

    WOW. I can see this law shaking the tree all over the world. It is pretty much the only way a man has any say after a woman gets pregnant. Here’s hoping this has the far-reaching consequences that I forsee it to cause in the near and possibly far future.

  • Lana Voreskova

    This article is nonsense. The law is a proposal by a minor political party. It has not passed into law and it’s very unlikely that any law which is opposed by feminist groups will be passed in Sweden. Sweden is the most feminist and anti-male country in the world and equal rights for men would never be tolerated there. In Sweden, the average man is more feminist than the average feminist in other countries. In Sweden the feminists could order all men to cut their own balls off and Swedish men would line up to comply.

  • Kenneth Day

    Yes, we would force our daughters to be parents against their will, as consensual sex was their will and parenthood is the consequence.

    You’d prefer to murder a baby in the name of convenience. Where’s the equality and right to life in that?

  • Snr Capon

    You are right, but you can also see things this way: women will start having more and more babies WITHOUT fathers and we all know how it works for single mothers: they receive state money, A LOT of state money, especially in socialist European countries. So basically, workers (mostly men), will still pay for feminist selfish decision to have babies on their own.
    So in 10 years, it will be comon to
    – have the state replacing men (financially) (but men will still pay through taxes)
    – kids won’t have fathers anymore and will be raised as feminists and anti-men/father ==> it will lead to even less rol models for boys and still more self hatred…
    – Selffulling prophecy will happen: women will say: “see, we don’t need men, we don’t need fathers… men are obsolete… Single mom power! and all kind of shit like that
    ==> this law will backfire and will not help men!
    Never forget, a men who opts out of parenthood will still be a coward, a irresponsible bastard for society and women will still play the “victim” card while taking fully advantage of the situation.
    smells bad. real bad if you ask me…

  • Snr Capon

    You are right, but you can also see things this way: women will start having more and more babies WITHOUT fathers and we all know how it works for single mothers: they receive state money, A LOT of state money, especially in socialist European countries. So basically, workers (mostly men), will still pay for feminist selfish decision to have babies on their own.
    So in 10 years, it will be comon to

    – have the state replacing men (financially) (but men will still pay through taxes)

    – kids won’t have fathers anymore and will be raised as feminists and anti-men/father ==> it will lead to even less rol models for boys and still more self hatred…

    – Selffulling prophecy will happen: women will say: “see, we don’t need men, we don’t need fathers… men are obsolete… Single mom power! and all kind of shit like that

    ==> this law will backfire and will not help men!

    Never forget, a men who opts out of parenthood will still be a coward, a irresponsible bastard for society and women will still play the “victim” card while taking fully advantage of the situation.

  • Snr Capon

    You are right, but you can also see things this way: women will start having more and more babies WITHOUT fathers and we all know how it works for single mothers: they receive state money, A LOT of state money, especially in socialist European countries. So basically, workers (mostly men), will still pay for feminist selfish decision to have babies on their own.
    So in 10 years, it will be comon to

    – have the state replacing men (financially) (but men will still pay through taxes)

    – kids won’t have fathers anymore and will be raised as feminists and anti-men/father ==> it will lead to even less rol models for boys and still more self hatred…

    – Selffulling prophecy will happen: women will say: “see, we don’t need men, we don’t need fathers… men are obsolete… Single mom power! and all kind of shit like that

    ==> this law will backfire and will not help men!

    Never forget, a man who opts out of parenthood will still be a coward, a irresponsible bastard for society and women will still play the “victim” card while taking fully advantage of the situation.

  • Snr Capon

    You are right, but you can also see things this way: women will start having more and more babies WITHOUT fathers and we all know how it works for single mothers: they receive state money, A LOT of state money, especially in socialist European countries. So basically, workers (mostly men), will still pay for feminist selfish decision to have babies on their own.
    So in 10 years, it will be comon to

    – have the state replacing men (financially) (but men will still pay through taxes)

    – kids won’t have fathers anymore and will be raised as feminists and anti-men/father ==> it will lead to even less rol models for boys and still more self hatred…

    – Selffulling prophecy will happen: women will say: “see, we don’t need men, we don’t need fathers… men are obsolete… Single mom power! and all kind of shit like that

    ==> this law will backfire and will not help men!

    Never forget, a men who opts out of parenthood will still be a coward, a irresponsible bastard for society and women will still play the “victim” card while taking fully advantage of the situation.

  • Brother AbdulMajeed

    You are right that this law will end up costing a lot of money and men will ultimately bear the brunt. The trick, however, is not to be one of those men who bear the brunt, more men just have to free themselves of the “obligations” that they have been brainwashed into accepting (which women don’t seem to have). Western societies are already on the verge of bankruptcy, there’s no point in twisting ourselves into knots about it, just do less that results in your efforts subsidizing the government through taxes and do more where you get to keep the fruits of your labour.

  • Apothis

    Finally some push back to these ridiculous feminist slanted laws.

  • Apothis

    Nothing more than a straw-man argument. More women will opt for an abortion because they don’t want to be an only parent.
    (See how that works).

  • Stephan Williams

    Best response yet, memrppl2.

  • Cedric D

    Of course women’s rights groups are fighting this… equality is their biggest enemy.

  • Cedric D

    But all that stuff is already happening

  • John

    What if the pregnancy is hidden from the father?

  • LF

    It is about TIME we rid ourselves of this financial slavery. Former president of NOW, Karen DeCrow, said it best: Justice therefore dictates that if a woman makes a unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of support. Or, put another way, autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice.

  • LF

    This is what is needed. Men pay more in taxes, once the burden of women making poor decisions becomes unbearable. They overthrow the government and right the wrong.

    Or, you fix the problem, reduce funding women making poor life choices. Bad decisions should have negative consequences.

  • LF

    Could you stop posting the same tired comment?

  • menrppl2

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/
    b/c its 2016, and men are ppl too

  • Alex Chaudhari

    Good. I hope these feminazis realize how stupid they are acting.

  • Alex Chaudhari

    And it’s not like it’s set in stone either.

  • JT Wallace

    Why would women oppose this? I thought women were strong and independent and didn’t need men for anything? I thought women were in charge of their bodies and their fertility? Wouldn’t this law be the perfect opportunity for the little ladies to prove just how strong and independent they are? Oh…that’s right, women are only strong and independent up until it’s time to pay for their life choices…then they are helpless damsels who suddenly need men.

  • Suraj

    Actually State should have no power to tax its person for funding females.When females have freedom to choose becoming mother .Males and other women also have freedom to not to pay for that directly and indirectly.Actually worldwide majotiocracy is prevailing rather democracy. and it is thought that law made by approval of majority can be forced upon everyone .Democracy is freedom of choice at our own cost and consequences and freedom to make contract with other persons.But today most countries in world has so many laws than older times that Democracy hardly exist .

  • Jester Cohort

    it would have been if they didn’t have women to contend with 😉

  • Jester Cohort

    geeeeez, ..and here I was thinking Australia is the most feminazist & anti men country, ….so you mean to say, that we still have worse feminazism to come yet ?

  • Lupus

    Unfortunately it’s already happening in the USA when single mothers kick out the low income father of their children when they find out welfare pays better. Good enough to screw but their paycheck just won’t do.

  • Lupus

    Men need both an equivalent to the pill AND easily reversible vasectomies. That would change the playing field totally.

    Had a friend who’s girlfriend became pregnant and said he was the father. Her face got real long when he told her about his vasectomy and she had best go after the other guy. LMAO

  • Andy C

    No, not women. Not all women. Well off women who are already very comfortable and can spend their time researching and thinking and looking for new ways to proclaim themselves victims.

    If other women happen to do well out of it, then PR brownie points all round. But they will sell the idea that this what they do. At least to their ‘members’ so to speak.

  • Jan Scott

    This is actually interesting. I’m shocked.

  • lanceken

    Fantastic! I’ve been saying this needs to happen for years!

  • Phedre No Delauney

    How is it unfair when the woman carries the child for 40 weeks? When she is the one who takes care of the child when the father walks away? Of course a mother should have more rights! She has more responsibility.

  • Phedre No Delauney

    Sex = possibility of pregnancy. No one who willingly consents to sex is “trapped.”

  • Merrill Eriksen

    Do none of you consider how easy it is for men to control where their sperm go? Control those little baby-makers! The comments about feminism being anti-man are especially disturbing. What rights do you have that you would want your sister/daughter/mother/wife to not have?: that’s feminism. Don’t redefine it to fit your own hates and fears. I dare you to not resort to name calling.

  • alip

    If you really believe that it follows that abortion should be illegal as well.

  • alip

    Whether the child is born or not is 100% the mothers decision. The father doesn’t legally have any say in it. Even afterwards the mother has the option of just giving the child away.

  • Kronk

    Except you forget to mention that females ALREADY have the option to murder their child even if the father say no. We men are just looking for the same consideration. If women can do it why not men? Is the vagina special somehow?

  • Kronk

    Not a single comment in this thread asking the extremely valid question:
    HOW COME MEN DON’T HAVE THIS RIGHT ALREADY?????

    You really don’t give a shit about your rights do you? Or my rights as a man. Or the rights of your sons or mine DO YOU?????
    Else you would be more than just KeyBoard Warriors!

    This should have happened for men the very same day vaginas were allowed to murder their children via abortion.
    Where were you on that day? Watching football drinking beer?

    Is it just me or do you too see the irony that- as long as the child is yet unborn, a vagina is allowed to legally end its life but one second after it is born, we now call it murder???

    Men just sit in their ass and think someone else will fix this insanity better known as gynocentrisim while those insane bitches are ‘busy-beavers’ in the background getting laws passed like Yes Means Yes!

    When will you people finally have enough??????

  • Kronk

    “No man in the US has the right to opt out of parenting a child he is biologically contributed to and even worse than that he doesn’t have to be the biological father he can still be held responsible. If you don’t see that as a gross unfairness, I’m not sure you know what fairness means” -Janet Bloomfield.

  • Kronk

    “From her, no evidence is required. From him, no evidence is sufficient”.

  • Kronk

    Good point. DAMN good point…

  • Kronk

    You should go away now.

  • Kronk

    Since abortion is never going to stop I demand equal rights for fathers. I want the option of murdering people to!
    I’m sure now you see this logic.
    Thx.

  • Kronk

    What part of ‘fair’ is difficult for you to understand?

  • Kronk

    My body, My choice, YOUR MONEY!

  • Emma

    Honesty, there’s no real opting out of paying. Financial abortions won’t suddenly make all these women who want to keep their babies but don’t have the financial means to do so on their own, suddenly stop to consider the fact that they can’t afford to do it…and then go ahead and opt for abortion or adoption instead. These women will still have their babies, only now without financial support from many of the fathers, we’ll have more women and worse, more innocent babies (who did nothing to deserve such poor circumstances), living in poverty on government funds/taxpayer dollars. Taxes will surely need to be raised eventually, because that’s where they’ll turn – from the fathers and the child support cheques to the government and the taxpayers. Instead of a man personally paying to raise his unwanted child(ren), we’re simply shifting the bill and forcing all men *and* women to collectively pay for and fund the lives of these single moms and their babies. So yeah, it’s really not opting out when you’ll still be paying for the children via taxes, it’s more like forcing the rest of us to opt-in too. While it’s unfair to make a man pay for a he didn’t want, it’s even more unfair to the baby who didn’t ask to be born and is now here on this planet and deserves, at the very least, the basic necessities, and the rest of us who had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. There’s got to be a better solution. Male birth control comes to mind. Men should have more tools to prevent this from occurring in the first place. Condoms aren’t enough. It would be great if a men could just take a pill or get a shot, and in turn become unable to impregnate anybody for the rest of the month.

  • Emma

    Sure, in theory yes, it could be considered easy for a man to control where his sperm goes. It could also be considered easy for a woman to control sperm from getting inside her – but it would be inappropriate to say that and we know it’s just not practical. Unplanned pregnancies happen all the time. Sh*t happens. I don’t think this financial abortion will work very well because it places more of a burden on society and the taxpayers when women still have the babies they can’t afford and more end up living on government handouts, but I do think men should have (and deserve) more options.

  • Emma

    No, our money. This wouldn’t stop these women from having the babies they want and can’t afford. They’ll do it anyway. Single mothers and their babies will turn from fathers providing child support cheques to the government providing handouts. Our taxpayer dollars will be forced to support even more people. Taxes will surely need to be raised. It will become a collective bill to be paid by all of us.

  • Emma

    Both men and women will be forced to pay for all these single moms and unwanted babies, but yes, men do pay more taxes, which also means men will end up paying more to fund their lives. So in the end, men will continue playing the biggest role in footing the bill. And this bill will only grow larger as times goes on, because without child support, more and more single moms will turn to the government for handouts. It’s very unfortunate.

    Cutting the government funding doesn’t really work either, because while the women may deserve to live with the negative consequences of their poor decisions, their babies don’t. Babies are expensive and have many needs that must be met. It would be very unfair and morally wrong to deprive an innocent child of the basic necessities. I mean, these kids didn’t ask to be brought in to the world and placed in such unfortunate circumstances. They shouldn’t have to pay the price because of the actions of their mothers. Men shouldn’t have to either though, so I don’t know the solution.

  • Kronk

    Indeed that’s already happening! With men paying the majority of taxes in to the system, they still end up paying for immature females and illegitimate babies. And all this because we allow It…

  • Kronk

    I think you nailed it my friend…

  • Kronk

    Well the solution is NOT to let babies be the excuse for irresponsible females to continue to reproduce. It has to stop somewhere and if we let females continue to suck off the government teat just because they have a baby the problem will never go away and indeed get worse as we are seeing now. The best solution is to make the female 100% responsible for the baby they birth and NOT to have any safety net in the slightest. Only then will we see the irresponsible females having babies absolutely plummet over night. Females are counting on pulling the heart strings of society wherever a child is involved so they can continue to ride the government Gravy-Train. I say DERAIL that tax funded baby-making incentive!

  • Merrill Eriksen

    Emma, I appreciate your reasoned response. Both men and women seem to have little desire to control their sexual impulses, even when they are well aware of the obvious outcome. Medical technology only has birth control options for women; for men, only condoms or the too permanent vasectomy. It would be good for men to have more control over reproduction, but I think they have to take more control over it with what’s available to them. That’s what I told my sons when they were teenagers–“don’t say she got pregnant, say you got her pregnant. Or just don’t.” This came with a gross of condoms.

  • Ryan

    I fully believe this law needs to come into place in the uk. I had a one night stand with a friend. Did I just have sex with her without thinking about contraception? Of course not. Before we had sex I asked her if she had any condoms as I didn’t have any with me. She said there’s no need because I’m on the pill. Did I then just crack on? No I said “but the pill isn’t always 100% reliable” she then went on to tell me that when she was with her ex partner it took her over a year to conceive and that was with doctors help and of course no pill. Then and this is the big one, she said and I quote “if the worst did happen I wouldn’t be keeping it because I already have one and don’t want anymore right now”. So having told me this we had sex. I was fully under the impression that pregnancy was pretty much impossible and that even if it did happen she would have an abortion. You guest it a few weeks later she tells me she’s pregnant but that she’s already made plans to sort it. I told her straight away that I didn’t want to keep the child either. Over the next week she kept changing her mind then went for a scan only to find out she was expecting twins! I told her that if she went ahead with them then I wouldn’t be involved as I didn’t want to keep them. As horrible as that sounds she can’t afford them and neither of us really want them. Again she continued to change her mind but has decided to keep them 100% against my will. She hasn’t had them yet and tells me she wants nothing from me but I don’t believe she will stick to this. How can it be right that I could be landed with a maintenance bill for 2 children for the next 18 years because she has decided to keep them? What if I wanted to keep them and she didn’t? She would abort them and not an eye lid would be batted. I rightly cannot force her to have an abortion just as I can’t force her to keep them if she didn’t want to. So why should I be forced into paying for children I didn’t want? Women want equal rights when it suits them. I told her within 2 hours of her telling me that I didn’t want a baby with her because of a bit of fun we had. Having sex with someone is not a consent to parenthood and it certainly isn’t consent to 2 children! Men should have the right especially when contraception fails to be able to sign away any financial responisblity for a child that he never wanted in the first place. The law needs to come into place.

  • Kronk

    So lets see, a female only has to stay hidden for 18 weeks in order to trap a male into paying for her pregnancy, for 18+ long years do I have this correct? I don’t see it as much difference in what they are doing now…

    And we allow it to continue-

  • Kronk

    You mean WOMEN are not trapped. Once pregnant they have EVERY OPTION. Men have NO option. At all! except abstinence which is highly recommended.

    There I fixed it for you.

  • Kronk

    Actually, it is NOT legal to have an abortion, if you are a man that is. Are you able to force a female to have an abortion?
    Nope. Men have ZERO rights. Absolutely none…

    If it were ‘Legal’ you would be able/allowed to do something.

    And we men allow this to continue.

  • Kronk

    On the other hand, we men should NEVER ALLOWED IT in the first place!!!

  • Kronk

    Is she unable to keep her legs closed? THATS why it is fair!
    Idiot-

  • Kronk

    Not if you are a feminist it doesn’t. Remember, they are criminaly insane-

  • Kronk

    Females lie????? Everyone of them tell me they don’t… I’m confused.

  • Kronk

    Not yet. Wait and see how many criminal females will hide out for the requisite 18 weeks just to force a man into paying for her pregnancy for 18+ years. And remember, he doesn’t even have to be the bio-father.

    Tell me, why isn’t this ALREADY law?????

  • Kronk

    Yup. Nice try, but there is just too much more control and power to be lost.
    Ain’t gonna happen folks!

  • Kronk

    I’m sure you are speaking for yourself.

  • Kronk

    Yup. What can you say except, however I have one caveat, you say “men don’t give a fuck until their nuts are in a vice” but my observations are NOT EVEN THEN!!!

  • Kronk

    Females, being the master liars that they are, will just tell another lie and say that “I never told him any such thing as a matter of fact I told him I wanted to get pregnant and he said he was fine with that” and she would be believed because she has a vagina. Everyone here at this blog already knows this.

    The problem I have with you my friend is how could you trust anything that a vagina says? I mean, they are Grand Master Champion Liars! Everyone knows this, but believes them anyway.

    WHY?

  • Kronk

    Please don’t redefine it like the vagina has no responsibility in the sex act AND the pregnancy. Feminists like you are disgusting in your hypocrisy and special privileges deliberately kept away from men. If you were not so stupidly ‘off-the-Wall’ with your comments nobody here would resort to name calling you but I guess as a feminist you can’t understand that or indeed ANY logic in the least so am I just talking to a wall?
    “I dare you not to resort with even more hypocrisy!”

  • The Spooky Ghost

    I agree completely.

    But unfortunately we did allow it, so yeah.

  • Dmoney22

    Once the money dries up, the pregnancy train will slow down.

  • Petter

    Anyone thinking “feminism” is still about equal rights when feminists are unexceptionally opposing a law that is fundamental for gender equality, is a fucking lunatic.

  • javanaut

    Hitler ( a national socialist = nazi ) encouraged women to have a baby out of wedlock: “Have a baby for the Fuehrer!” Nonsense, of course to you who are deaf and blind.

  • Alex

    Both need to be fucking responsible. Otherwise don’t have sex! Abortion is murder it shouldn’t be a choice.

  • Samuel Kimathi Muriithi

    easily reversible vasectomies are a matter of advancing science but I don’t quite understand why we don’t have pills yet according to planned parenthood our options are.

    abstinence
    condoms
    outercourse
    vasectomy
    withdrawal

  • Truth Be kNown

    There are some major caveat flaws in this including a woman might not tell a man. There are babies born at like 16 weeks and lived…so 18 week abortion is gross if he suddenly decides at that late stage she has the moral decision to kill a large developed fetus. Some people don’t find out they are pregnant until much later in their pregnancy. I understand the concept. I do think men need more rights. But the concept is highly flawed

  • Truth Be kNown

    And yes men need to stop acting like it’s the woman’s responsibility to deal with the risk of pregnancy…wrap your crap…insert spermicide and stop playing just the tip or I’m sterile or blah blah…men are pushy about sex…so don’t act like many of u fools aren’t out there doing that

  • Arundeep Chohan

    Nobody trusts feminists.

  • Arundeep Chohan

    It won’t happen since it’s Sweden.

  • Arundeep Chohan

    We need something that protects against that as well. Maybe something along the lines if the male didn’t know then he can waive all rights to the child whenever. Probably using that birth record for the father as a means.